- Klaus Thymann (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)
This is a photographer who is known and there is no reason why he should not have a page. I see the previous deletions were because it was thought to be spam, but the references I will put will be to his own website, so that would not be spam. Please help me out here. I'm a big fan of Klaus Thymann. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Photographynyc (talk • contribs)
- Moved from Wikipedia:Deletion review/Active. Timotheus Canens (talk) 16:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse – I agree with the reasons for the past deletions. I'm afraid, after briefly searching, that even if a new version is created that is neutral and not advertorial, I don't think it passes for notability (which I think was also why it was deleted a couple times per WP:CSD#A7. –MuZemike 17:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Not a DRV matter. Just write an article with independently (third party) sourced claims of notability; the subject's own website probably won't do, although, for example, the official sites for the awards he's allegedly won probably would. Speedy deletion is not a bar to creation of a legit article. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse Deletion at this point there appears to be no reason that a speedy deletion is not appropriate. The article should probably be next recreated in user space, allowing a determination if there is enough there to justify a move to mainspace based on the presence of reliable and verifiable sources. Alansohn (talk) 20:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Endorse speedy deletion per WP:CSD#G11. The article's most recent incarnation read like an advertisement and contained "weasel words" and "peacock words." If notability in reliable sources can be shown, a new article about this individual may be acceptable. But the speedy deletion should not be overturned. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 00:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - there is a determined promotion effort going on here - this article has been created five times, by authors such as Klaus Thymann (talk · contribs), Afgmanagement (talk · contribs) and Afgintern (talk · contribs). AFG Management of NYC is the agency that represents Thymann. The last one was deleted only a week ago; the author Afgintern was rather disingenuous about his connection: "I don't know or even work for this person, I am just trying to create pages for photographers". I think this new "big fan of Klaus Thymann" Photographynyc (talk · contribs) is the agency PR department trying again; they have not yet got the message that WP is not a free promotion service. JohnCD (talk) 10:46, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sources I have found for notability are project-pressure.org, hybrids-project.com. I also want to talk about his solo gallery shows and awards won. I didn't see any of the other pages created, but if you give me a chance, you will see that it's encyclopedic and not advertising. If you don't like it, you can delete it again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Photographynyc (talk • contribs) 15:45, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I actually found alot more sources, so please give me a chance to create this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Photographynyc (talk • contribs) 19:53, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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